One of the most noticeable aspects of Reddit’s  community is an obsession with child support and it’s misuse, any longtime user will notice the site is filled with anecdotes of Men being forced to fork over their hard earned cash to greedy mothers who only had children for the sweet money. Incidents of Men being forced to pay child support for children that aren’t their’s will gain scores of upvotes and attract an extraordinary amount of attention almost comically out of proportion to the occurrence of these incidents.

A recent Ask-Reddit post asking the question “How would you feel about a law requiring parents that receive child support to supply the court with proof of how the child support money is being spent?” gained more than 70,000 upvotes and is the third most upvoted thread on the subreddit Askreddit. Most of the comments thankfully pointed out the unfeasibility of the suggestion and the can of worms that suggestion would open, but the sheer amount of upvoted that comment received indicates that there are two possibilities to explain this phenomenon.

  1. The first that concerns about child support payments and their misuse are something close to the heart of most Redditors and the suggestion of a paper trail for child support was a unique innovative idea that they felt had to be upvoted to the top out of the blue
  2. Child support is an issue close to the hear of a dedicated, well-organized minority that was able to use a combination of bot-nets and organisation to get this answer to the top of a subreddit

If the first popularity is the case then I suspect that the main reason would be demographics as the  Reddit user base skews towards American white male educated millennials who probably have the most to loose to child support and are reaching the age where unexpected children are hitting their peers and they view it as a huge risk to their livelihood. This, however,  seems to be rather unlikely as Child Support isn’t much of a political issue in the united states of America with no mainstream candidate seeming to take any view on the issue rather than to leave it to the status quo. This leads me to conclude rather that the second scenario is the most likely explanation for this phenomena

The Reddit Karma system has a rather well-known flaw that has been exploited by numerous communities ranging from /r/Donald to /r/Neoliberal to gain massive karma despite the small real size of the community which is the fact that comments karma do not take into account proportion, only the net number of upvotes minus downvotes. This allows small well-organized and single minded communities to gain upvotes comparable to the biggest subreddit simply due to a better organisation.

To explain, let’s imagine that the question of bread with butter vs bread with cheese was a huge issue. There are 2 subreddits /r/bread_question and /r/bread_butter, The first has 50000 subscribers with split around 50-50 on the issue while /r/bread_butter has only 7500 subscribers. A pro-cheese post on /r/bread_question would only be able to get few hundred upvotes and vice-versa due to the split in the demographics and the fact that Reddit use is a sick joke more honoured in the breach rather than in the action. Meanwhile, pro-butter posts on /r/bread_butter could gain thousands of upvotes due to the lack of any dissenting voices. An outside observer might think that butter-bread was overwhelmingly more popular than cheeses-bread while in fact, they have similar popularity just one side is more organised than the other.

The phenomena become stronger when one considers that a large number of people might simply not have an opinion on the issue which allows for special interest redditors to make their view look like a massive majority via exploitation of the above phenomena, similar how to special interests group work in real life to impact public policy.

It is my belief, that there is a community of dedicates Redditor aided by misogynic communities such as /r/Kotakuinaction and /r/redpill who exploit the flaws of the Reddit algorithm that I have outlined above to move the overtone window more rightward via a propganda campagin that publicized incident of child support use as a mainstream shielf for other misognynitic viewpoints that would be downvotes if states outright


What do you think ? let me know in the comments below ?

3 thoughts on “Why Is Reddit Seemingly Obsessed with Child Support ?

  1. Well… as someone that just came by your blog, my answer is: You’re looking into something that isn’t, and trying to make it into something that is. It’s very common among (certain) kind of people. And I’ll explain why it ‘isn’t’.

    Simply: One post does not a trend (or obsession) make.

    Secondly: r/kotakuinaction isn’t ‘misogynic’, but that in itself shows how knowledgeable you are of the sub you’re talking about. Brigading ISN’T allowed on Reddit (though certain leftie subs are overlooked), and x-posting from other subreddits is not allowed on KIA; in fact, from what I’ve seen it’s automatically removed.

    Thirdly: Hell yes it’s a political issue. That’s like saying FGM, or MGM isn’t a political issue, even if it’s ignored. Remember how feminists say, “Personal is political”? 🙂 Unlike feminism, though, MRM doesn’t have an ideology behind it, but it’s still an identity cult; perhaps one of the better ones that are out there, given feminism has been pushed into LGTB through queer theory.

    > misognynitic

    Criticism doesn’t not misognyny make. Nor is pointing out flaws. Nor is attacking feminism, given feminism is closer to a movement that’s for equality in post-patriarchal world. First of all, it’s essentially feminist’s fault – they are the ones pushing, “Bodily autonomy”, but the argument has no place to stand because it’s not a question of bodily autonomy, but a question of choice – absolute bodily autonomy doesn’t exist; bodily autonomy isn’t the reason – the reason is potential consequences that life might cause. However, such consequences are unimportant when it comes to the father, he has no choice; either pay or go to jail.

    Furthermore, woman has right over the fetus – whether or not she wants to call it ‘rights’ is another thing, but given her right to abort it is the right over the fetus and its life – the man doesn’t, even though he participated in making it as much as she did. However, he is ‘granted’ rights, after the woman gives birth to the baby, because at that point she – and with help of a state – remembers that apparently, she didn’t create it alone.

    That leaves us with: Equal choice. Bodily autonomy doesn’t come into play; man has no say; woman decides whether she wants to keep it or not. After that, man decides whether he wants to stay and be in the baby’s life, or leave. Upon that decision, she still has a choice – she’s still an adult – she knows the consequences – if she can’t raise it, but decides to keep it, that’s her issue and her alone.

    The other choice (heh) is; given that man’s participation in creating said life isn’t counted until the life is born, we can come to conclude that at that point he’s ‘granted rights’ and responsaibilities – which shouldn’t be the case. After all, it’s her body, the baby was part of her body, and it’s hers and solely hers – you can’t give responsability and rights over something that’s yours, unless the other person wants to accept it.

    The second seems quite far-fetched, but given it’s part of what feminists are pushing (bodily autonomy! My body my choice! Well, your body your baby), well… But we all know feminism isn’t really about equal rights, anyhow, but special privileges and protections of a women; there’s a reason they don’t mind affirmative action, diversity, etc; all of it is discrimination, and the ones pushing it are just as bad people that pushed for discrimination against women in the past. Same shit, different side.



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